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Flash and Flex talking

Considering Flash and Flex is closely knitted, why is it so hard for them to talk to one and another.
I’ve tried a bunch of different ways to make a flash file show. Settled for SWC and calling by class to begin with, then I realised I couldn’t get it to talk to flex (Problem could be between keyboard and chair!).  So i had to try A BUNCH of ways. I can now easily get it to show an swf file. but getting it to talk is SOOOO painful!
This post saved my mind from madness: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091342/interact-with-swf-loader
I found dispatch was suppose to be work only it didn’t because I embedded the swf. Now the trouble is how do the flex pushview thing?
Here’s the answer: http://cookbooks.adobe.com/post_Passing_data_between_Views-18854.html